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MrSex4uNYC comments on an AFC's sad sad story.
An example of how NOT to do a pickup!


From: mrsex4unyc@aol.comedr4d (MrSex4uNYC)
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: Re: Please, help an total AFC
Date: 30 Dec 1999 21:57:56 GMT

>Here's my problem

all you AFC guys that have been posting recently... read THIS and feel GOOD
about yourselves.  I mean go out there and snag some pussy... don't get
LAZY... but I think this is the WORST example I have EVER SEEN :(

>I've met this beautiful model two years ago at a trade fair where she
>was working as a fashion model.

you are now 2 YEARS DEEP in being a "GIRLfriend" to her instead of a MAN!
good luck climbing out of that shit :(

>She had a boyfriend and lived together
>with him. I was 43 and she  23.  I worked as a sales manager for a
>fashion retailer with clothing shops in Europe. I am married but since
>my wife has a seriously disease and need my help I don't want or can
>divorce her now.
>
>Well, we quickly started a great conversation immediately.. So we
>really liked each other..

you liked her PUSSY, she liked your MONEY and potentially your PERSONALITY.
that is a MIS-MATCH.  she will NEVER see you as a SEXUAL MAN until she
admires your SEXUAL PROWESS instead of your WALLET.

>We also talked about to have dinner
>sometime.

uh-oh.  dinner for what?  you SHOULD have discussed what you require of her
in a sexual relationship and when she said she wasn't going to fuck, you should
have baited her with ONE GOOD DINNER, then cut her off and told her you
don't want to hear from her again unless she is telling you that she wants you to
take her to a hotel and fuck her.  make her HUNGRY for your $$$ and then let
her know that she isn't going to get the benefit of your money OR your
personality if she's not sexing you.  those privileges are reserved for REAL
WOMEN!

>I planned to use her as a model for our fashion shows in Europe.  As
>a "prepayment" I gave her some nice clothing that we had used at the
>fair and she also worked for us at a fashion show in Germany.

now you have established that you have money and connections.  JERK THAT
SHIT AWAY FROM HER and watch her crawl to you for it.  if she doesn't crawl for
it, she's not going to suck you off either.

>3 month later she told me she wanted to have the dinner with me and we
>really had a great evening together, just like we were the best
>friends, that is: no intimacy..

the best FRIENDS?  what made you and her FRIENDS?  what did she like about
YOU? is that what you were dating her for... to make a female FRIEND?  if so,
what is this post about?  why did you like her?  because she is beautiful AND
refuses to give you sex?  what was your goal?  what were you trying to get
from her in exchange for this dinner?  what was the dinner a reward for?
nothing.

you were HOPING that through buying her stuff and taking her out, that would
turn on some sex shit in her.  it doesn't WORK like that.

>We started to see each other and had
>nice dinners ( with me paying ).

you are her girlfriend

>We walked holding arms together from
>the restaurants, but nothing more..

you are her girlfriend

> We did hug each other, but we never kissed.

you are her girlfriend

>We kept talking on the phone every week.

you are her girlfriend

>She told me she didn't liked here boyfriend
>and that she wanted to move to an own apartment
>as soon as possible.

you are her girlfriend  AND now she knows you will spend ALL of your money
on her with NO RECIPROCATION from her.  she will milk your ass DRY! :)

>After "dating" each other for about 6 months we decided to go to Paris
>a weekend and I arranged a Suit at a nice hotel.

you are her girlfriend

>2 weeks before she told me that she wants to have 
>her own room. We had a discussion and
>she told me that she rely liked me and wanted to go 
>to Paris with me but she wanted to have
>her own room.

I mean please :(

can you get a clue?  WHAT KIND OF BITCH THAT LIKES YOU AS A *MAN* IS GOING
TO GET YOU TO FLY HER TO PARIS *AND* SET HER UP WITH A ROOM WHERE SHE CAN FUCK
PARISIAN MEN AT WILL?  this whole shit is fucking pathetic :(

let this be a lesson AFCs...  if you KEEP doing what you have been doing,
THIS WILL BE YOU in 20 years!

>We went to Paris and had a nice stay there with shopping, dinners etc.


you are being used.  she doesn't give a shit about you. she doesn't intend
to fuck you.  she is fucking OTHER men that she finds sexually attractive.  you
are footing the bill for her international whoring. stop.

>At the evenings before bedtime  we did hug each other, but when I tried
>to kiss here she said NO and went into her room.

you are being used.  she doesn't give a shit about you. she doesn't intend
to fuck you.  she is fucking OTHER men that she finds sexually attractive.  you
are footing the bill for her international whoring. stop.

>I must fill in the she never never asked me to buy her something.

a DUH!  she didn't have to ask you because you OFFERED HER EVERYTHING!  you
started with dinners and ended with a trip to fuck the studs of paris!  do
the AFCs here now understand why "can I buy you a drink" is a DISASTEROUS line? :(

>A few months and several dinners later she told me that she rely liked
>me as a friend.

yes.  you are her GIRLfriend.

>But I should not expect more.

because she is not a lesbian and you have no dick.

>I know that she likes
>tall big muscular men ( like here father ). I am 174 cm ( 5' 7'' ). She
>also started to be very confusing.

no.  you are the one that is confused.

you are being used.  she doesn't give a shit about you. she doesn't intend
to fuck you.  she is fucking OTHER men that she finds sexually attractive.  you
are footing the bill for her international whoring. stop.

>She told me that she didn't liked
>the way I looked and touched at here and she ended our relationship.

you WERE being used.  she DIDN'T give a shit about you. she NEVER INTENDED
to fuck you.  she WAS FUCKING OTHER MEN that she FOUND SEXUALLY attractive.
you WERE footing the bill for her international whoring. SHE STOPPED IT BEFORE
YOU GOT THE CHANCE TO STOP IT :(

>4 months later in September,  we meet each other in a fragrance shop.

uh-oh :/

>She told me she had job in the shop selling fragrance and cosmetics.
>She also told me that she had moved from her boyfriend.

don't do it...

>We started to see each other again and had several nice dinners.

you are being used.  she doesn't give a shit about you. she doesn't intend
to fuck you.  she is fucking OTHER men that she finds sexually attractive.  you
are footing the bill for her international whoring. stop.

>When I visited her job I learned from her friends
>that she had told a lot about me. Who I was, my 
>occupation as a marketing manager etc etc.

that you are a hump.  that you give her money for free. that you would
probably buy a girl a car if she even TOUCHED you sexually...

>I felt that everything was set to happen.

HAHAHAHA it's BEEN happening!  YOU just weren't in on the fun :)

>Every time I visited her at
>the shop and when we had dinners, I could see of the body language that
>she liked me.

bitches love $$$... you are right.

>But I don't wanted to risk that she gets mad at me for
>any reason, I just didn't wanted to force anything.   So I didn't hug
>her or kiss her.

it is much better to have her spend all the money that YOU worked hard to
get. do you know how much ACTUAL SEX you could have gotten for all that dinner
and paris money you spent on that worthless bitch?

you weren't FORCING HER to spend your money, now were you? :)

>4 weeks ago we had agreed to have dinner. We decided to see each other
>at the entrance to the shopping mall where the fragrance shop is. When
>I came she was there hugging another guy and she introduced us for
>each other.   She had a relation with the doorman/guard working at
>the shopping mall. ( a tall and muscular guy without brain ).

notice how she was physical with HIM in the way that she CUT YOU OFF for
trying to get physical with her.  HE IS A FUCKING *GUARD* IN THE MALL!  HOW MUCH
MONEY DO YO THINK HE MAKES?  STOP THROWING MONEY AT THIS BITCH!  feed the hungry
or do something good with the money :(

>I must say that I was really confused.

let me clear things up for you...

you are being used.  she doesn't give a shit about you. she doesn't intend
to fuck you.  she is fucking OTHER men that she finds sexually attractive.  you
are footing the bill for her international whoring. stop.

>However we had a dinner that evening.

you are the money and entertainment.  he is the DICK that she likes to suck.
any questions?

>I asked what her boyfriend said when she was going out
>with me.  She told me that he had nothing to do with it.

yes he does.  you paid for the outfit he was wearing when you walked up to
the mall :)

>She also
>told me that the relation with the guy was not so very serious and that
>he was peculiar!!

what would you have done if she had told you how she had just finished
sucking his dick before she kissed you hello?  would you have taken her to dinner
and spent more money on her or rushed out to buy Listerine? HAHAHAHAHA :)

>One week later I visited her at the fragrance shop a Friday afternoon.
>We had some small talk an I asked her out for dinner that evening. She
>told me that she couldn't because she should go out with her girl
>friends.

oh please!  there is only one reason she would not go out to spend more of
your money.  she is fitting to ride his BALONEY PONY!  hehehehe :)

>I was then told by one of her girl friends that she and  the
>boyfriend had visited the guys parents that Friday.

can you get a clue?  mr. WHORE-FINANCIER?

>I got a lot of unanswered questions in my mind. .. I am so damn
>confused... I would appreciate any advice, tip, or ideas by anyone,..
>( after reading this myself, I must consider myself to be a total
>AFC without cojones )
>
>Thank you in advance

you need to let that bitch know that you want sex from her so she can CUT
YOU OFF AGAIN and you will see her true colors.