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From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Mon Sep 13 23:47:51 1999
From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD)
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Subject: Skill Building: GM exercises
Date: 7 Sep 1999 08:41:56 GMT
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Are you ready to get laid twice a day?

Okay here are your exercise for the week: approach 4 women a week,
preferrably pairs thereof, and put the following in the conversation
-- only, in a humorous way! And every time she looks vexed by the
insult, hug her and kiss her and tell her "you're just kidding".

-- I'm organizing an orgy for my friend's birthday. Wanna come?
-- I like you because you're intelligent .
   I like myself because I'm intelligent, too .
-- If you're nice enough I will lick you.
-- How does it feel like to be with (one|two) handsome blokes?
-- My friend's jealous bc mine is bigger
-- Look, we have to go (to her place) now because I have a date in 2 
   hours. No we can't go to my place because I have a friend sleeping
   there. 
-- Hide your pleasure!
-- I love myself sooo much I can't leave myself alone.
-- I wish I could split myself in 5 GM so that I could please all
   the women.

So try that kind of stuff and report. Oh yeah, and never forget that
your aim is to drag her to a private corner to put your willie 
inside. Nothign else.

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From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Mon Sep 13 23:54:24 1999
From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD)
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Subject: More lines and IMPORTANT things was Re: Skill Building: GM exercises
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Ok some more lines:

-- if you buy me a drink, you might get lucky tonite
-- I can't please every girl but I'll give you a chance tonite
-- women are lining up to be with me
-- it's tough to be such a sex symbol
-- are'nt you going to get too horny if I sit next to you?

OKAY ONE IMPORTANT THING: you'd think that he gets blown off
every time he says something that stupid, right? YES HE WOULD!!
He would IF he did'nt say "JUST KIDDING " *before* she has
a chance to reply.

Psychologically speaking, since she does not have the time to
reply negatively, she's somewhat agreeing. It's rather obvious
when you see it happening.

If she starts replying negatively, he cuts her down by saying,
"yeah I like to say stupid things, life's too short not to have
fun" or "I like to act like a little kid -- I'm a kid".





From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Mon Sep 13 23:55:06 1999
From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD)
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Subject: Re: More lines and IMPORTANT things was Re: Skill Building: GM exercises
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On Tue, 07 Sep 1999 12:18:35 GMT, LordGaeden@hotmail.com 
 wrote:
| He hugs them after his first line already? How can he get away with
| intruding their personal space so early on? I would guess that doing
| that would repulse the girls even more.

There is some progression, of course. But remember that he hugs
just after a BIG neg. Hence the invasion is masked by the embarassment
cause by the insult.

| > Psychologically speaking, since she does not have the time to
| > reply negatively, she's somewhat agreeing. It's rather obvious
| > when you see it happening.
| >
| > If she starts replying negatively, he cuts her down by saying,
| > "yeah I like to say stupid things, life's too short not to have
| > fun" or "I like to act like a little kid -- I'm a kid".
| 
| And then what does he do? He just keeps making sex-jokes, or he walks
| away?

No he carries on.

| Does GM constantly talks to the girl(s) he wants, or does he chat, walk
| off, come back later to follow up?

He's really persistent.

| Does GM get 10s?

There's a picture of a 18 yo girl he fucked in the lounge. She's
IMO close to 10. (The blonde one sitting at a café)

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From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Tue Sep 14 00:10:58 1999
From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD)
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Subject: Re: SLEAZE Line Week
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On Wed, 08 Sep 1999 23:36:57 GMT, mr.morg  wrote:
| OK these are both very powerful, SO COVER UR NUTS OR THEY MAY BE CRUSHED!
| 
| " heybabe, I was hoping you could help me out for a sec ? You see a
| snake just bit my nads and i need you to suck the poison out"

From GM: "Are you hands clean? -- Yeah -- Ok, could you hold my *** for
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me while I'm peeing?"


From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Tue Sep 14 00:30:29 1999
From: Nathan SZILARD 
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Subject: GM 8th Sept: porn style action
Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 04:04:32 +0200
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Sit at the regular cafe. He engages a single girl. I see him, 
go do some stuff. She was waiting for someone. We engage
another one. Really cute, finnish. But she was waiting for
her bad boy. GM is smooth: a guy had just been rejected 10s
before. He complains about that shit (AFCs hitting on girls)
that fuck his approach. Approach another two set. We're getting
nowhere. He asks them for a piece of paper. On it he write:
8:30 - 0
8:45 - 0
9:00 - 0
9:15 - ?
LOL
Every time we do the 'it's his birthday' gimmick. Works 
fine to get whatever you want, as you will see.
We approach another two: they're really cute. But one of
them is bitchy and fucks it up -- the cutest one could
be almost for it. As they don't go with the program he gets
even more direct -- explains his philosophy: take no prisoners,
err phone numbers, I have that many women, etc ... The cuter
one is fascinated. We offer one last time to go to my place
to celebrate my birthday with champagne, they don't say no
but the bitchy one bitches -- slightly. He ejects -- in a
'you can't fire me cause I quit' way, he's really proud of
it. 

To retaliate we engage two merkins in front of them. He's not
too direct with them. After 45 min we go to my place to dirnk
champagne. One of them is somewhat cute, fully pierce, I would
have thought she was a lesbian. The other one is shy and a
bit too fat for my taste. He leaves me the fat one claiming
it's gonna be easier. Not! He takes MsPiercing back to the 
bedroom. I pattern the fat one and get a hand job on her
nice titties, but no more. The bitch is wet but it's not in
her standard. That was long to get though. She leaves, 
feeling uncomfortable. In the mean time GM has fucked (PIV and 
ass) MsPiercing. We go back to the living room, and have a nice
chit chat, and I'm surprised at how natural it is. GM is
pissed off bc he wanted to swap. So he asks to suck my dick
as my birthday present. No. So he gets her to show me her titties,
(pierced), then later undresses her, feels her up, I do the
same, she sucks my dick while he fucks her. She confessed to
me that she liked me more (?) -- that's happened before 2 
days ago, it's probably the good cop / bad cop thingie. 

Anyway, she's really comfortable with it. He claims to have
un stucked her. Could be believed. Have to know how he does 
that. Full porn action. Cool. The girl is a really good fuck.
Nice body. Nice pierced titties. Slim.

He's leaving with her to get her to bring a friend tomorrow. 
He wants that foursome thing. I find the idea of a girl
bringing in that 'trap' rather interesting. GM gets her to
agree that the fat one missed a good fuck -- two good fucks
actually, he says. She agrees.

---

Approach he had used: I go tell a girl that my friend is
pissed off that she did'nt say hello to him, despite the
fact they've met before.

---


Oh yeah another interesting one: while we were fluffing 
the two chicks at my place, one of them mentions the fact
that we have the morning pill in France, but not yet in 
the US. GM: "You won't need it tonite, we always use condoms.
LOL Just kidding".

As he gets into 'rapport' with the girls, I've noticed, he
gets more and more direct, sometimes completely omitting
the 'just kidding' part. 

Talk about being straightforward.



From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Tue Sep 14 00:35:13 1999
From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD)
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Subject: Re: GM 8th Sept: porn style action
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On Thu, 09 Sep 1999 13:45:07 GMT, whoisthis19@my-deja.com 
 wrote:
| In article <37D715B0.33FFAF61@metabork.fr.eu.org>,
|   Nathan SZILARD  wrote:
| > Sit at the regular cafe. He engages a single girl. I see him,
| > go do some stuff. She was waiting for someone. We engage
| > another one. Really cute, finnish. But she was waiting for
| > her bad boy. GM is smooth: a guy had just been rejected 10s
| > before.
| 
| You mean rejection doesnt phase him a bit and he just keeps on plugging
| away?

I don't get it? A guy approached her lamely. He does his
stuff anyway.

| > He complains about that shit (AFCs hitting on girls)
| > that fuck his approach.
| 
| Complains to you or to the targets?

To me. He always complains about AFCs fucking up his approach.
Vultures. He also claims that he has to reprogram women for the
others: with all that ass-licking they feel too important. 
Hopefully he's here to change that for the next guys to come
on them :)

| > Approach another two set. We're getting
| > nowhere. He asks them for a piece of paper. On it he write:
| > 8:30 - 0
| > 8:45 - 0
| > 9:00 - 0
| > 9:15 - ?
| > LOL
| > Every time we do the 'it's his birthday' gimmick. Works
| > fine to get whatever you want, as you will see.
| 
| God damn what an easy and effective gimmic!

Yeah, and even if it's an overused one, we don't give
a damn shit.

| > We approach another two: they're really cute. But one of
| > them is bitchy and fucks it up -- the cutest one could
| > be almost for it. As they don't go with the program he gets
| > even more direct -- explains his philosophy: take no prisoners,
| > err phone numbers, I have that many women, etc ... The cuter
| > one is fascinated. We offer one last time to go to my place
| > to celebrate my birthday with champagne, they don't say no
| > but the bitchy one bitches -- slightly. He ejects -- in a
| > 'you can't fire me cause I quit' way, he's really proud of
| > it.
| >
| > To retaliate we engage two merkins in front of them.
| 
| Did the Merkins see you talking to the bitchy one and her friend and SEE
| you eject?

Actually, yeah. GM claimed they were friend of ours. 

| >He's not
| > too direct with them. After 45 min we go to my place to dirnk
| > champagne.
| 
| We're they into the birthday excuse or were they going there to get
| laid.  When does GM make the "come to my place" move?  How far is your
| place from the cafes?

"N., does that champagne offer still stand?"
"Sure, GM, I promised you we'd have some of that really good one!
 Hey girls, wanna drink some really good champagne?"
"Where?"
"At my place"
"He lives just round the corner"

And then he insists a little bit. Like,  not bully style, but
he keeps asking the question, every 1 or 2 mins.

My place is really close from the café -- that's actually the reason
why he does that with me! Yes, he uses me. I don't give a damn shit:
I'm using him too.

| > I pattern the fat one and get a hand job on her
| > nice titties, but no more. The bitch is wet but it's not in
| > her standard. That was long to get though. She leaves,
| > feeling uncomfortable. In the mean time GM has fucked (PIV and
| > ass)
| 
| PIV?

Penis In Vagina

|  MsPiercing. We go back to the living room, and have a nice
| > chit chat, and I'm surprised at how natural it is. GM is
| > pissed off bc he wanted to swap. So he asks to suck my dick
| > as my birthday present. No.
| 
| Is HE BI? or was this just a joke? or did you leave out the word "her"

No he's not bi, he asked HER of course.

| > So he gets her to show me her titties,
| > (pierced), then later undresses her, feels her up, I do the
| > same, she sucks my dick while he fucks her. She confessed to
| > me that she liked me more (?) -- that's happened before 2
| > days ago, it's probably the good cop / bad cop thingie.
| 
| Damn this is erotic.  alt.sex.stories.true  lol
| 
| > Anyway, she's really comfortable with it. He claims to have
| > un stucked her. Could be believed. Have to know how he does
| > that.
| 
| No kidding!  He's got to have a good technique in bed.
| 
| > Full porn action. Cool. The girl is a really good fuck.
| > Nice body. Nice pierced titties. Slim.
| >
| > He's leaving with her to get her to bring a friend tomorrow.
| > He wants that foursome thing. I find the idea of a girl
| > bringing in that 'trap' rather interesting. GM gets her to
| > agree that the fat one missed a good fuck -- two good fucks
| > actually, he says. She agrees.
| 
| I see GM taking the lead in most of this but I'm sure your doing things
| too.  I'll bet GM is more effective with you as a wingman than he was
| alone.  What kind of things do you do?

I don't do much! Actually I think that most of the time I'd rather
shut up than break stuff. Sometimes he tells me what to say, or
gets nervous bc I'm too quiet. He's really sarcastic whenever
I say something too common or not funny or negative -- which I 
hardly ever do anyway. 

| In cafes do you approach woman who are having dinner or just killing
| time having coffee?  Are woman used to being approached in these places.

Any woman. 

| Here it would be unusual, unacceptable and GM would get thrown out of
| any cafe here.

Look, it's really simple: he knows the bartenders by their name, they
know what he's up to. Actually most of them are jealous and act
like vultures, and fuck up his approach from time to time. But no
violence. 

And no, me thinks you are being too cautious here. If you are making 
them laugh, nobody will think you're bothering them.

| > Approach he had used: I go tell a girl that my friend is
| > pissed off that she did'nt say hello to him, despite the
| > fact they've met before.
| 
| How did it work out?

She got puzzled, did'nt believe me, looked at him. I went back
to sit down, he went up, chatted her, but she was leaving for
the theatre or something.

| > Oh yeah another interesting one: while we were fluffing
| > the two chicks at my place, one of them mentions the fact
| > that we have the morning pill in France, but not yet in
| > the US. GM: "You won't need it tonite, we always use condoms.
| > LOL Just kidding".
| 
| This is so useful because I hate dancing around the condom/venerial
| disease issue.  He finds ways to joke about it.  Maybe what I just said
| is key.  He says what he wants to say and asks for what he wants but
| always with humor.  Do you find him funny?  Do the woman laugh at his
| jokes?

YES THEY DO! THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT! IT'S IN-CRE-DIBLE --
BUT THEY LAUGH!!!!

| > As he gets into 'rapport' with the girls, I've noticed, he
| > gets more and more direct, sometimes completely omitting
| > the 'just kidding' part.
| >
| > Talk about being straightforward.
| 
| God!  NOOOOOO SHIT!!!  Remeber when you said he just talked to a gal for
| about 20 seconds and she left with him?  Did you ever get the story
| behind that?  Did he just go up and ask her to fuck?  That was in a
| disco wasnt it?

Not 20sec, 5 mins. But still. Not a disco, a cafe/bar. He did'nt ASK
for a fuck -- he never ASKS he offers CHANCES. And she was laughing.
I don't know what he did to her - he did'nt remember exactly (how
could he?)


-- 
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From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Tue Sep 14 00:40:55 1999
From: Nathan SZILARD 
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whoisthis19@my-deja.com a écrit:

> > To me. He always complains about AFCs fucking up his approach.
> > Vultures. He also claims that he has to reprogram women for the
> > others: with all that ass-licking they feel too important.
> > Hopefully he's here to change that for the next guys to come
> > on them :)
> 
> He makes an excellant point about HBs feeling too important that sounds
> like mystery.  He seems to be a natural.  I wonder if he went through an
> AFC phase once?

Indeed. And it's mostly a problem with the most beautiful girls -- 
but not all. Mystery knows how to disarm them, but STILL, it's
fucking tough. GM routes against that by surprising them with
his approach; however they can be quick to put themselves back
in that position.

And here I have an interesting thought: I have the impression that
sometimes they catch themselves in this habit; you have something
to offer (that's basically what GM says all the time), and you 
sense that they almost fall for it, BUT they're so used to bitching
and feeling important and 'winning' -- whatever it means -- that
they do the same old program again. 

Interesting GM thing: one woman claimed that we were on our 
battle field. He denied the term 'battle' -- no one loses. We all
win. Pleasure. 


From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Tue Sep 14 01:22:31 1999
From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD)
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Subject: Re: Weekend Field Report ----  I NEED SOME HELP!!
Date: 12 Sep 1999 10:21:05 GMT
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On Sun, 12 Sep 1999 08:17:41 GMT, Oldschool  wrote:

>Approach #1 - I decided early that night to implement the 3s rule.  I
>see 2 women at the bar (8.5 and 6.5), and I approach.  "I can't
>believe these men are all around you ladies, and not one has said
>anything to you!!  Hi, my name is Ed. . .".  I try to run some jokes
>and ask about school, etc.  Every time I ask a question, the 8.5 looks
>at the 6.5 as if to say "what a fucking loser" through her stare.  I

GM's reply in that case: "So what, you don't like handsome blokes?
Tell me, cause I really don't like giving
pearls to swines"

>catch on, and give an awkward bow-out, "well, I'm gonna get back to my
>friends now.  It was nice meeting you. . ."  What a fucking loser
>line!!!  No rapport from the start.  No way in hell I was gonna close
>in a decent way.


From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Tue Sep 14 01:38:25 1999
From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD)
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"Hey girls, do you know how you can tell whether you like us?"
"No?"
"Well tonite, when you get back to your hotel, and you remove your
 panties, throw it in the air, and if it sticks to the wall, then
 that means that you liked us!"

I can't believe THEY FUCKING LAUGHED.


Damn it.



From: Nathan SZILARD 
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Simple.

"have you seen my new watch?"
"what?"
"it's a telepathic watch."
"What?"
"yeah he can guess things about you"
"yeah right, like what"
"hm ... right now it says that you have no panties"
"then it must be wrong!"
"  oh it must an hour fast"

nightlight9@hotmail.com a écrit:
> 
> Heres one I got today in the mail (not from a chick, but I though it
> was cute).  It would need some minor adjustments, I think but it could
> work (as quotes or with you playing the role of the confident male):
> 
> A rather confident man, walks into a bar and takes a seat next
> to a very attractive woman.  He gives her a quick glance, then
> casually looks at his watch for a moment.
> 
> The woman notices this and asks, "Is your date running late?"
> 
> "No", he replies, "I just bought this state-of-the-art watch and
> I was just testing it."
> 
> The intrigued woman says, "A state-of-the-art watch?  What's so
> special about it?"
> 
> "It uses alpha waves to telepathically talk to me," he explains.
> 
> "What's it telling you now?"
> 
> "Well, it says you're not wearing any panties."
> 
> The woman giggles and replies, "Well it must be broken then,
> because I am wearing panties!"
> 
> And the man starts tapping on the watch face and says, "Damn
> thing must be an hour fast


From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Tue Sep 14 01:45:15 1999
From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD)
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: GM come back lines
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Whenever they don't react positively enough he goes:

"Hide your joy!"
"Last time I saw someone as excited as you, he was in coma!"

And the best of the best (best responses):

"If you don't like cute guys, just tell me!"

It's the best because, most of the time, as outrageous as it
is, they reply by: "no, no, we do like cute guys!"

I would never have believed that without seeing it
happening before my eyes.

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From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Mon Sep 27 00:13:16 1999
From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD)
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: Going GM on a model
Date: 24 Sep 1999 15:35:13 GMT
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I wasn't about to pick her up bc a bartender "friend" of mine
was on the program, but I plan to pick up the remnants anyway.
(Once his big times AFC tendencies have shot him down ...)

I went GM full style albeit with little kino. She went kino
though, slapping me on the top of my head as she was totally
craking up. 

After several big dicks self promoting comments, I said:
"You know, that really bothers me, all those girls and guys
going after me, and they're only interested because of it,
you know, I want to be appreciated for who I am, not for
just my HUGE penis." And then "I should'nt talk about that,
I don't want you to be incredibly turned on, ... I don't
want you to make a mental picture of a huuuuuuuuuuuuge
throoobing tasty penis." Her eyes were glowing -- you
could tell what she had in mine!!!!!!!!!!!!

That was funny. This GM thing is soooo funny. 

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From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD)
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On Wed, 13 Oct 1999 16:01:12 -0700, Mike  wrote:
(...)
| Then gas is filled up and she thanks me and gets in her car and I say,
| “sure, why don’t we continue this some other time, like say over
| coffee?”. She’s says, “Coffee? Sure, I’m sure I’ll see you around here
| again.” Me, “No you won’t, I’m not even from here, I’m from Vancouver.”
| Her, “Oh, I’m from Surrey. Well, I don’t go out for coffee with people I
| don’t know.”

GM: "Me neither, but I'm in a good mood today, and I thought I would
     be nice and would let you have that chance to be with me again"

Huh, don't know if it's that good.


| Me, “Well, tell you what, then why don’t we exchange
| numbers and we can talk on the phone and get to know each other there
| and then we can go for coffee.” Her (in semi-trance by now), “do you
| have a pen?”. I fumble for a pen, we exchange numbers and that was it.
^^^^^^^^^^^

She asks, soudns good.

| It was done in about three to four minutes and Tom told me that the gas
| station attendant came out to make sure I wasn’t going to molest her or
| something. Oh yeah, the bars we went to were interesting. As interesting
| as bars from Hell could get.


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From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Sat Feb 19 21:13:18 2000
From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD)
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: From the NoShit! Department: GM does not supplicate


No shit, heh?

I hooked up with GM after a few months of interruption.
The guy got in severe financial problems. He's still
3 months late in payment, and he can't get it up to 
fuck anything over 30, so he can't even make money
off his skills.

Anyway.

I sucked lately; you might have noticed I haven't posted
in a week, I was stuck in bed, mostly. So we did'nt do
anything special. I just got to listen to him talking
on the phone, and we had one night out, nothing great.

But hey. What he gets of them. 

Simple. He wants some chick (18 yo) to come over. He
just tells her that he won't be able to see her in a
while because another chick is coming to visit him 
the next day, staying for a week, then another one,
"and you won't be able to come over then, because
remember last time you came, we had sex in front of her,
and she did'nt like it, you know she travelled all the
way to England, it's really not nice of you."

Then he says that he's never going to marry her ????
(What? Is she even believing it to be possible???)

Last time he saw her, she brought a friend over, she
left for 5 minutes, and in the mean time, he was 
fucking the friend !!! 

Shit, I can't help doubting him, but when EVERYTIME
I challenge him, he proves me wrong! Like, I did'nt
believe the 5 minutes friend fucking thing. No
problemo, he calls her back, fluffes her, put the
loudspeaker on, and get her to more or less describe
the fucking scene!!!

But what's interesting is that he's ALWAYS respectful
of them. He never calls them sluts or bitches. He
starts being angry when they don't do what he wants,
and then, he makes them feel like it's their fault,
that they don't respect him. 

So he gets the chick to come over, and on top of that
"oh and I don't want a gift this time" he says.
"Oh wait I have something for you" she replies.
Don't know what it is.

I had to go, was fucking exhausted, so I did'nt
get to see the chick. Fucking headache.

Doh. Double triple doh.

The GM method? They don't want to do what you want
of them? Make them feel guilty about it. Insist. Do
as if they had said yes when they haven't said anything
definite. He does that with me too. It's hard to 
resist actually. Even though he knew I was sick he
still wanted me to hang out with him and complained
because I could'nt come sarging with him.





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From nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org Sat Feb 19 21:13:36 2000
From: nathan@metabork.fr.eu.org (Nathan SZILARD)
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: GM has the solution to (one of my) questions; again.

And it is: don't supplicate, you thwart.

The question was: all the women, esp. the foreigners, complain
about sleazy men always trying to pick them up in the street,
and indeed, it happens all the time in Paris.

GM's answer: "what? YOU, getting picked up? LOL! You should
be grateful."

Where it's not supplication: he is genuinely offended to
be associated with this phenomenon. He reacts angrily .
He shows it. Who do you think you are to call ME a 
sleaze? That's the message he conveys.

More generally: he conveys this attitude all the time.
Be grateful that I talk to you. "Pearls before swines"
he says all the time ("donner de la confiture aux 
cochons").





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